Carinthia Defence 4

September 9, 2019 posted by


AHOY FOLKS! Today I am comnig to you from my flat. Because I want to show you closer my new sleeping bag. It is Carinthia Defence 4. It should be a three season issue. This means the Autumn – Winter – Spring. The temperature range of this sleeping bag is : Comfort -8,8°C ( 16°F ) Limit -16,1°C ( 3°F ) Extreme -36,6 °C ( – 34°F ) This looks everytime awesome in the shop. But you have to test it by yourself, if it is true or not. Because the sense of the cold is subjective. Also it depends on the conditions- if you are tired, the weather etc. I was testing this sleeping bag at -8°C… … and I wasn’t cold. If you want to see this sleeping bag in aciton… find my video from my first overnighter with this sleeping bag. The manufacturer boasts that it is being used by special forces. If it is true or not, I don’t know. But Caritnhia is Army supplier anyway. There is also Defence 1 and Defence 6. Defence 1 is mainly for the Spring – Summer and the begining of the autumn. The Defence 6 is designed for the extreme cold. This sleeping bag is also being sold in a set with Tropen sleeping bag. Defence 4 + Tropen=extreme cold sleeping system. We can see a huge number of compressing straps on the first look. The cover is waterproof with PU coating from the inside. Let me take the yardstick. Not comprimed is 52×32 cm ( 20,5×12,5 inch) Very interesting is its compressibility. Let me show you, It will take just a while. It is also good to open the acces hole to let the air escape. Let me do it… I will not use the straps around, this time. OK It might be better, but I don’t want to fight it. Comprimed – 30x32cm ( 11,8×12,5 inch ) I think this is pretty decent. Ok, I have unpacked the sleeping bag. Let’s see the dimensions at first. The length is 230 cm ( 90,5 inch ). There is also a second version – 215 cm (84,5 inch). This is to find the right length of the sleeping bag. 230 cm for people 200 cm tall. 215 cm for people 185 cm tall. Everybody should choose the size of the bag regarding to his stature. To avoid the empty spaces in your sleeping bag. Like here in the feet portion. The weight is 2 kgs (4,4 lbs) for 230 cm version. Shorter version is 1,8 kg. The width at your shoulders is 87 cm ( 34 inch ). And 60 cm ( 23,6 inch ) at feet portion. Very interesting (on the first look) is the design of this bag. With the zipper on your chest and with a small hole for your face. I have seen this desig a lot of years ago… … on a very old army sleeping bag of my gran-dad. The insulation is G-Loft fibres (1,1 kgs – 2,4 lbs) It seems to be a good insulation. It has an memory effect. It returns to normal position very quickly… It looks like a small spirals. I have heard some voices, that is close to dawn filling. But I think that dawn filling is far different than this. But anyway G-Loft is a very good filling. The outer shell is 100% polyamide with PU coating. The inner shell is also polyamide but without coating. The outer shell looks like rip-stop fabric. So the dammages should not widen. The fabric is thick as usuall – to reduce the weight. I recommend you to use the bivi bag to protect the sleeping bag from dammages. Even by the cheapest surplus bivi bag… …where you don’t need to be worry of resin, dust, pine needles, dirt, sparks etc. It is better to dammage cheap bivi than expensive sleeping bag like this. The price of this bag is about 5000 CZK ( 185 € ) The zipper is covered by a nice wide stripe of fabric. And if you open this, you can see large velcro panels. There are also some information from the manufacturer… … like the maintenance instructions and such. And information about used materials. There is a two-way zipper. It is made of plastic with a metal rider. But it is not popular YKK. You can also open it from the other side. And gain some ventilation if you are hot. There are nice large pieces of the fabric on the raiders. It is from both sides, so the manipulation is easy. There is a ribbon sewed to side of the zipper. This prevents the zipperto get stuck by biting the fabric of the sleeping bag. On the other side of the zipper… …there are several seams, which has the same function. And I have to say it works. The hole for your face… … can be tighten by the laces. The laces have two fuses. If we open the sleeping bag… … we can see the sandwich construction. There are several eyelets inside the sleeping bag. ( 6 pcs ) Two near your head, two in the middle and two in the feet portion. You can use them to fit the thermal or hygienic insert. Which you can buy from Carinthia also. Or to hang your sleeping bag and dry it. The design is very interesting. It looks like it consists of two sleeping bags, conected together. Let me show you. Let’s open the zipper. See? Two feet portions. This helps to dry the sleeping bag, if needed. I can just simply hang the sleeping bag on the piece of cordage between two trees. Now it is obvious, I think. Two sleeping bags connected together here, nearby the zippers. There are eyelets on the outside also. You can use them to hang the bag during drying or during storage. There is one thing, which this sleeping bag doesn’t have. And it is the heat collar. This collar is usually here inside the sleeping bag. And you can tighten it around your neck… … to split the internatl space to the two parts. This is usefull during the winter. To avoid absorption of the moisture inside the sleeping bag (from your breath). But I think it is not a disadvantage. (the missing collar) If you want to see this sleeping bag in action, don’t hesitate to find my video… … where I was using this bag for the first time. My expressions from the first few tests are: – the sleeping bag is easy to pack. – the zipper on the chest is surprisingly practical. – small hole for the face is not a problem. But it might be bigger. I was trying to sleep with my head outside of the sleeping bag. With this hole around my neck. But it was too tight. But I slept without any problems with the hole around my face. It is also possible to sleep on the side. I would like to tell you more how to store your sleeping bags. You have two options: To lay it loosely somwhere. Underneath your bed for example. It will extend the lifetime of your sleeping bags. Second option is to hang it for example in your cabinet. (if it is tall enough) Using those eyelets. There is also a special storage bag for some sleeping bags. Where the sleeping bag is like this… … but I don’t like it. The best is to lay them loosely. NEVER STORE YOUR SLEEPING BAGS IN THE COMPRESSION SACKS ! So, what else folks? I will put this sleeping bag into the compression sack. I will place it to my backpack. And I will go outside. And you should do the same! So AHOY FOLKS!

15 Comments

15 Replies to “Carinthia Defence 4”

  1. Primitivní dovednosti says:

    Ahoj, to jsi pověděl moc pěkně . Přiznám se, že jsem tyto věci nikdy neřešil, ale nyní tvé informace použiji až budu nějaký spacák kupovat.  Jinak pokud je to armádní spacák tak by utažený límec vojákovi překážel kdyby ho chtěl  rychle opustit, ale na druhou stranu by ho nemusel  používat kdyby se mu to zrovna nehodilo. .Díky za velmi poučné video.

  2. Nobby Bravo Alpha says:

    Another great review and video all areas covered ATB Nobby

  3. Tom Parsley says:

    jakej spacák na naše klasický český léto od Carinthie? defence 1 a nebo brenta?

  4. Miroslav Huja says:

    Ahoj chci si koupit defence4 ale potřebuji vědět jestli šíře odpovída tomu co se píše už mám stím skušenosti že se deklaruje něco a ono to není pravda. Potřebuji širší spacá ze zdravotních důvodů díky

  5. MATEJKA55 says:

    Zdravím, třísezónní spacák je myšlen na jaro, léto, podzim, na léto je letní a na zimu zimní. Jinak dobrý výklad a recenze. Mám ho také ale po čase se mi nějak zmenšuje (myslím náplň). Čekal jsem od něj více, ale jako "hamakáři" mi vyhovuje zip uprostřed 🙂

  6. Míra Tobrock says:

    Ahoj, z mé zkušenosti spaní v zimních podmínkách. Od Carinthii mám již 3rokem Defence 1 a spal jsem vněm v teplotách přibližně do -5až -10°C, při těch teplotách k -10°C jsem již používal ždárák Holandské armády tzn. že jsem byl chráněn v "uzavřeném" vnitřním prostoru. Mám verzi pro postavu délky nad 185cm. Moje výška je 185cm, takže jsem na hraně těchto velikostí, asi bych dobře využil i tu měnší velikost, ale já mám raději trochu více místa, pro uskladnění věcí v zimě, jako je voda, atd. Dlouhé roky jsem používal spacák určený pro teploty kolem 10°C a i v zimě při teplotách pod nulou jsem neměl větší problémy se spaním. Za mě je zásadnější volba místa pro spaní, to co máte pod sebou za stélu, karimatku atd. ale hlavně jak jste vybaven co se týká bazálním metabolismem, už jsem viděl spát mnoho lidí ve spacácích při teplotách hodně vzdálených komfortním teplotám a byla jim většinu noci zima a naopak.Míra Tobrock

  7. Daniel Kliment says:

    Ahoj! Parádní recenze!!! Díky.

  8. Roman Kováč says:

    dobrá recenzia. pridám aj svoje postrehy. mám tento typ 5 rokov a pravdou je že v lete sa v ňom spať nedá. pri teplotách nad 15°c maximálne ako deka :-)preto som si zadovážil Tropen.
    nepamätám sa že by mi v ňom bola niekedy zima. môj extrém bol cca -20 v Slovenskom raji, v 1000 m/n/m otvorený senník, oblečené spodné prádlo, ponošky a tričko. (žiadne termoprádlo)
    druhú noc som použil aj Tropen aby som zistil rozdiel. teplota vonku taká istá v spacákoch pohoda. problémovejšie bolo ráno sa z toho vyhrabať. ak sa totiž v noci točíte tak zip jenen je v pravo a druhý vľavo:-) na predchádzajúcom spacáku som golier ( límec) mal ale na Carinthii mi vôbec nechýba.

  9. Crlthrn says:

    Many thanks for taking the trouble to review this sleeping bag, (and MANY thanks for the english subtitles.). Still trying to decide between the Defence 4 and the Brenta…

    Much appreciated. I have subscribed!

  10. FeliX HEJTMAN says:

    LIKOS

  11. carforumwanker says:

    They feel like they dont breath well.

  12. Petr Hruška says:

    Já si koupil Criterion Traveller, peří je super!! V minus patnácti a super. A váží jedno kilo. Cana kolem šesti tisíc, ale vyplatí se! Samo sebou pořádná karimatka je nutná, o tom žádná, to je základ!

  13. Patrik Cernan says:

    sprwv video aj na hamaku aj kde si ju kupil

  14. Awi Rabelista says:

    I was able to understand you via the translation. Very detailed review. Many thanks.

  15. Roman Gilar says:

    ahoj použivam carinthia defence 1 185cm a nemužu vynachvalit rozepinani uprostřed je top

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